Jamie
I have never seen Rocky V. When we first started BMT we would avoid watching films we had already seen. But then we’d also not love starting a series in the middle when we haven’t given the BMT treatment to the earlier films in the series. What a conundrum for the Rocky series and Rocky V in general. But now our priorities have been put straight and Rocky V can be brought into the fold. I can finally watch Rocky V. So what did I know about the film going into it? I know E from Entourage is in it. I know that Stallone’s son acted in it and that there’s like a street fight in it. I know what everyone hated it. I know that it came out the same year as The Godfather Part III, which everyone also hated. So I know that 1990 was the year that the dreams of males both young and old were shattered and everything they loved was killed by sequels. I also know that I kind of liked The Godfather Part III… so maybe I’ll like this.
To recap, immediately following the Drago fight, Rocky retires. Good thing, too, because he’s given a diagnosis of brain damage and is told that fighting again may seriously impair him. This would probably be OK, though, since he’s got his family and his son is doing great with everything that he can give him from his boxing winnings. That is until, uh oh! Paulie entrusts Rocky’s wealth to a scammer and they lose everything. Oh Paulie! The only way out of the hole is to fight and a promoter, George Washington Duke, is ready and willing to give him a big payday to fight his fighter, Union Cane. But with the diagnosis he ends up having to sell all his assets and move back to Philly. His son is dismayed to find himself thrust onto the hardscrabble streetz of Philly and begins to be victimized by some bullies. Rocky meanwhile reopens Mick’s Gym and soon catches the eye of Tommy Gunn, a raw boxer from Oklahoma. Rocky eventually takes him under his wing and soon Tommy is working his way through the lower ranks. Despite being neglected, Rocky’s son learns to fight and pushes back against the bullies, eventually falling into the wrong crowd himself. Tommy Gunn also feels a bit neglected as he toils away and falls under the influence of George Washington Duke. Tommy jumps ship for a shot at Union Cane and eventually wins the title. Rocky mends his relationship with his family, while Tommy struggles with the fact that no one respects him for ditching Rocky and not fighting a real champion for the title. Duke pushes Tommy to goad Rocky into a fight and he confronts Rocky at a local bar. Rocky tries to say no, but Tommy punches Paulie. Hey! Paulie may be a total piece of shit, but he’s Rocky’s total piece of shit! They go out in the streetz for a street fight and duke it out. They pummel each other for a while, Rocky seems brain damaged and all that, but eventually grits his way to a win. THE END.
Wow! This movie sucks! Just bad decision after bad decision. First, it’s embarrassing. Every five minutes you cringe. Just very uncool vibes going on in this film. It’s trying to be hip with the change to the soundtrack and streetz attitude, but it’s not. Second, it’s a kids movie. Obviously Stallone didn’t totally want to make a fifth film, but if he was making it he wanted to do this. Part of this was probably because he was a family man and he wanted to act with his son. It’s admirable, but contributes to the uncool, anti-Rocky vibes wafting off this film. Third, I could be OK with the general uncoolness… if the last fight wasn’t so horrible. What in the absolute world were they thinking with the street fight ending? No thank you. Anyway, in an incredible upset I have to say I actually thought Sage Stallone was not bad. Pretty good for a young actor taking on a very big role in a major blockbuster. As for Invisible Maniac, it’s a fun one. I was a little disappointed, but only because I had a high expectation from The Flop House podcast. I was promised a maniac jumping and smashing a head like a pumpkin. That is more implied than anything else. I did enjoy some of the other more risque scenes. Had to put on my glasses for those. Overall it was fun and a good example of the genre, but it had to contend with my own imagination, which is tough.
Hot Take Clam Bake! This entire film continues the dying dream as Rocky falls to the canvas during the fight with Drago. You think it’s a coincidence that Rocky’s son is easily at least five years older upon their return from Russia? Can’t you see that the whole brain damage storyline is his brain telling himself that it’s been damaged? Adrian goes and works in the same pet store as like fifteen years earlier. You think that pet store would still be open? In fact, every movie from here on out is just a continuation of the very long dying dream of his punch-addled brain. Hot Take Temperature: Street fighter turbo.
Patrick?
Patrick
‘Ello everyone! *Gif of me screaming You’re losing everyone! C’mon! during a street fight* Let’s go!
The Good? Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh. Huh. Well, I mean. Huh. Like. I guess I kind of dig the weird way in which Rocky just puts on his old outfit and goes back to the neighborhood and really doesn’t miss a beat in resuming his old poor-as-shit life. That is an interesting (and fairly understandable, given the lives of many heavyweights) trajectory for the character. Definitely led to more interesting stuff in the later films. I’ll give them that.
The Bad? Literally everything else. The bulk of the film is Rocky (genuinely) being a shit father. He straight up ignores his own son and adopts a fighter with daddy issues, and then is like “Duh. Yo, like, Rob, this was a problem for you? Like you didn’t like that?” You can’t really coast past the issues with the Tommy Gun actor, but the worst bit is the character of Duke does play right into the problematic racial overtones of most of the series (even though it is just literally making fun of Don King directly).
The BMT? I would have said no, except right at the end it totally redeems itself! The ending fight is “that’s a gif” galore. There are like a thousand gifs in it, mostly with zoom shots of Duke screaming things like “You lose, you’re finished!!!” It is the best thing in the universe.
Back to AI analysis. Lol, the query from the Rocky IV recap is not consistent. This is the issue with the current AI paradigm. I know there is a sense of learning how to use it properly. But someone I know said it is a programming language (I can see that, a higher level programming language) “except stochastic and a black box.” … Stochastic I can handle, stochastic is fine. A black box? That is a little more difficult to reason about. I can get it to return maybe a little consistently with larger images. And the nice thing is it does image batch pretty well. That’ll be my next thing I think, just working through that a bit. You do tend to have to force it to return json every time, and even though it is clearly understanding the image, it needs to be pretty high quality seemingly to make things less random. Go figure.
The Friend for Rocky V is natural as can be, another super strong bad dude: Invisible Maniac. Huh. Well, we heard of this film mostly through The Flophouse I believe, so I was always intrigued by it. Along with Head of the Family and Castle Freak, this one one of Stuart’s stalwart suggestions. Ultimately, I found the film to be a little too weird for my personal tastes, and as Jamie said it had a tough time living up to the impression I had of it. But I did understand the allure of seeing the titular invisible maniac stomp on the lead actress’s head near the end of the film. That is probably the only real redeeming feature of what seems to possibly be a soft-core pornographic film? C-, didn’t enjoy it, but can kind of see the appeal.
This is a great Setting as a Character (Where?) film for Philadelphia, in all its decrepit glory. And yeah, new category for Worst Ending (How?) for the ultimate fight being a ridiculous looking street fight outside of the garbage bar Paulie and Rock go to in the first film. This movie is BMT, but only because of that final fight.
Learn all about street fighting probably in the Quiz. Cheerios,
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