Krippendorf’s Tribe Recap

Jamie

A book cycle! A book cycle after the website has been a disaster area for like a year! What a mistake. We’ll see how long I actually am able to keep up with the reading of the books. Krippendorf’s Tribe was pretty easy. It’s a fantastically short satire of academia. I started it and I found it unpleasant. Mostly because the main character kind of sucked. But guess what? That was kind of the point. So as the book went on and got darker and darker I started to surprise myself by actually digging it. By the time the family is committing cannibalism and our “hero” is fleeing the country with his kids-turned-savages to presumably live out their days in the Amazonian jungle, I understood how it was that someone, somewhere felt like it would make a great movie. Why that movie had to be a heart warming tale starring Richard Dreyfuss? Not sure I understand that part yet.

To recap, James Krippendorf is a respected anthropologist and member of an all-star husband-wife team who have integrated the lives of their three kids into their explorations. After his wife dies, though, Krippendorf is lost. So lost that he spends the rest of their grant money on just keeping his family afloat. When the chickens come home to roost and he is expected to present the work he never completed on a lost tribe of New Guinea he never found, he does what any self respecting academic would do: make it all up. The showman to his wife’s brilliant researcher, he soon has everyone enraptured. Unfortunately they are too enraptured, as he gets roped into more lectures and a rising faculty member (and unabashed fan of his), Veronica, gets him tied up with a science-as-entertainment TV producer. So he finds himself having to produce more and more fake tribe content, including dressing his kids up in brownface and (hold onto your hats) having sex with Veronica on video to show off the mating rituals of the tribe… eeeeesh. Meanwhile a colleague of his sets out to expose the lie. This all culminates in his appearance on a TV dressed as the Chief of the Shelmikedmu and his subsequent winning of a large grant where both he and the Chief will appear. Veronica, peeved by the sex video, nonetheless agrees to help in exchange for half of the grant and helps keep up the ruse long enough for Krippendorf’s colleague to excitedly fax from New Guinea that there is no tribe. Everything falls apart… that is, until the colleague calls back and acknowledges that in fact she did find the Shelmikedmu. This was of course set up by Krippendorf’s daughter who pulled some favors with a nearby tribe who she had close ties to. THE END.

I feel like my opinion of this is painted a little by my unexpected love of the book. It’s just so much darker and I kind of wish that they went that way with it. You can even see it a little in other Dreyfuss performances. What About Bob? is a great example of Dreyfuss as insane person. I think he could have played that great. Chaos all around him while he pedantically explains it all away and people lap it up. But this is a pretty broad comedy that ended up kind of making a joke of the original satire. Is that why it got bad reviews? Because reviewers were angry that it didn’t live up to the biting satire of the source material. No. They didn’t like that it was racist mostly. And they seemed upset that Dreyfuss would do it. I will say that the fact that Elfman and Dreyfuss said yes to this insanity certainly elevated it. Dreyfuss is pretty physical as a comedian in this and so maybe that’s what attracted him to it. He got to act wild. Surprisingly middling for a film I presumed would be horrific.

Patrick?

Patrick

‘Ello everyone! *gif of me dancing around in blackface in a major motion picture in 1998* Let’s go!

The Good? The film is a little more heartwarming and the characters a little more quirky that one would initially give it credit for I think. Specifically, the whole family dynamic I think is quite nicely underplayed but also fairly nice how things get worked through in the end. And Elfman’s character in particular is just the right level of weird anthropologist groupie (?) / kind of game for the hoax and a publicity hungry crazy person that the romance works a lot better than you could ever think it could. These days she’d definitely be a buttoned-up person who only lets loose in the end.

The Bad? Uh … the blackface. I mentioned it in my intro. Five separate people dress in blackface. There is a whole section which is deeply offensive. It is only slightly saved by also having a real New Guinea tribe they are friends with that they are mostly just riffing on. Still though, hard to get past. Oh, and the rape scene. We’ll get to that in a second.

The BMT? I mean, yeah, one of the weirdest films ever made. And obviously deeply problematic and not funny. There isn’t really any other way to describe it but as an ultra weird film I watched as a kid. What do you think our parents thought watching this film? I wonder. I bet they have zero recollection of watching this film.

The Rewatchables? Might as well steal from the best. What’s aged the worst? The rape scene duh! They have a whole scene where Dreyfuss gets a woman drunk and then secretly films having sex with her. Whooooooops! The “That Guy” Award for Mac’s mother from It’s Always Sunny. Also Happy Gilmore’s grandmother as well. The Overacting Award goes to Elfman for the scene where she is pretending to be drunk (rough). And we get a wild Needle Drop in the middle of the film and over the credits for the Mighty Mighty Bosstones.

I took an extended break from my AI explorations, but I’m going to get back to it soon. The current key will probably focus on embeddings. In particular, there are a few huggingface models (models–google–vit-base-patch16-224 and models–openai–clip-vit-base-patch32 in particular) which I think I can get working a bit to try and see what I can see as far as one of my main goals in this cycle: Embed a bunch of movie posters and then try and find ones that match a specific but hard-to-articulate concept. Namely, can I find posters that utilize the same conceit as the For Your Eyes Only poster: you are looking through a woman’s legs. This one would be close, for example. Stay tuned.

Let’s go Early Role (Who?) for Mila Kunis who pops up as a girl at the science fair who is participating in the son’s tribal demonstration. Best Product Placement (What?) THERE IS AN ENTIRE SCENE IN McDONALD’S AAAAAND AN ENTIRE SCENE IN BEST BUY. Stop the presses. This is an unprecedented level of product placement. This film must have made bank. Setting as a Character (Where?) I’m pretty sure they are supposed to be in New York based on a few flags that are around, a choice I’m guessing was solely based on Natasha Lyonne’s crazy thick New York accent. We have an Exact Date (When?) of April 7, 1997 when the film starts. And Worst Twist (How?) for the inevitable conclusion that the daughter got the tribe they are friends with to pretend to be the Shelmikedmu Tribe to save them in the end. The film is BMT through and through, just wild and crazy stuff.

Cheerios,

The Sklogs

Krippendorf’s Tribe Preview

After spending a year in Hallston, it’s now time to get back to work. Patrick, Jamie and Kyle triple crack their knuckles and cozy up in their Brooklyn apartment rocking only the bulkiest of cable knit sweaters. “This is great!” Patrick exclaims sharpening a pencil. “Sure is!” Jamie agrees, testing out an eraser or two. “So what is this book about?” Kyle asks, spoiling the fun. Just when they were supposed to be completing Platonic Solids Series Part III: Cubey or Not Cubey they have found themselves confronted with the most dreaded Platonic Solid of them all… writer’s block. So far they had written one sentence: “Having consummated her swamp monster marriage to Kelton with some sweet swamp monster love in the Boggy Lands, Jewel was shocked to learn…” Learn what? The obvious answer was that she was pregnant, but their millions of fans had already predicted this online. They need a real twist-em-up or else Part III would never live up to the greatest finale a book series has ever seen. Kyle starts to form his lips in what looks suspiciously like the start of the word “mannequin” and Jamie and Patrick shush him preemptively. They distract themselves by picking up the mail and Patrick starts sweating bullets. Turns out, a year ago Patrick had promised to produce a new, rocking novel in exchange for pushing the release of Platonic Solids Series Part III. “When’s it due?” Jamie asks. Patrick gulps. “Tomorrow,” he rasps. What are they gonna do?! Suddenly Jamie has a thought. “What if we did write a new novel last year? And what if it’s rocking?” He quickly throws a blank cover on a copy of Platonic Solids Series Part I and scribbles on the front. “Bad Movie Tribe.” Patrick and Kyle are baffled. That’s right! New Year, new us? I’m not sure. All I’m sure about is that we are finally(?) watching the Dreyfuss classic Krippendorf’s Tribe. Based on a book that is now a major motion picture, I guess the best thing you can say about it is that it’s probably not as offensive as Soul Man, right? Right?! Let’s go!

Krippendorf’s Tribe (1998) – BMeTric: 41.1; Notability: 35

StreetCreditReport.com – BMeTric: top 8.8%; Notability: top 14.4%; Rotten Tomatoes: top 12.6%; Higher BMeT: The Avengers, 3 Ninjas: High Noon at Mega Mountain, Species II, I Still Know What You Did Last Summer, The Patriot, Lost in Space, Holy Man, Knock Off, Ringmaster, Major League: Back to the Minors, Godzilla, Air Bud: Golden Receiver, Barney’s Great Adventure, Jack Frost, Phantoms, Urban Legend, Home Fries, Tale of the Mummy, Legionnaire, My Giant, and 2 more; Higher Notability: 54, Godzilla, Patch Adams, U.S. Marshals, Goodbye Lover, The Waterboy, Mercury Rising, Mafia!, My Giant, Jack Frost, Senseless, Disturbing Behavior, Just the Ticket, Practical Magic, Half Baked, The Avengers, The Replacement Killers, The Odd Couple II, Lulu on the Bridge, Lost in Space, and 16 more; Lower RT: 3 Ninjas: High Noon at Mega Mountain, A Murder of Crows, The Curve, Lulu on the Bridge, The Avengers, Almost Heroes, Tarzan and the Lost City, Senseless, Strangeland, Species II, Phantoms, Knock Off, I Still Know What You Did Last Summer, Woo, Meet the Deedles, The Proposition, A Night at the Roxbury, Firestorm, Hush, Holy Man, and 11 more; Notes: We’ve watches 11 of the top 20 (and 7 of the top 10) for BMeT. Holy Man, being an Eddie Murphy film, is quite the blind spot. The Notability is impressive on this one, feels really rather small, right? It is just his family and Jenna Elfman basically.

RogerEbert.com – 2 stars –  Is it possible to recommend a whole comedy on the basis of one scene that made you laugh almost uncontrollably? I fear not. And yet “Krippendorf’s Tribe” has such a scene, and many comedies have none. I was reminded of the dead parakeet that had its head taped back on, in “Dumb And Dumber.” A scene like that can redeem a lot of down time.

(I would never ever have guessed that that scene, for Roger Ebert, was the circumcision scene. He is very forgiving of a film I mostly remember as featuring a scene that would certainly be considered rape by today’s standards.)

Trailer – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yZ2AKzt4IE/

(I mean … the trailer looks deeply offensive. What the fuck were we doing in 1998? How did this get past the planning stages? How did multiple people dress up in blackface and no one be like “wait a second…”)

DirectorsTodd Holland – ( Future BMT: Firehouse Dog; BMT: The Wizard; Krippendorf’s Tribe; Notes: Directed and produced a lot of Malcolm in the Middle. He is very much a television director.)

WritersFrank Parkin – ( Notes: The writer of the book. I honestly am stunned he got a credit, but I guess when you use such a distinctive name it is unavoidable. Also these things did feel a little more clear cut in the 90s.)

Charlie Peters – ( Known For: Three Men and a Little Lady; 5 Flights Up; My One and Only; Music from Another Room; Kiss Me Goodbye; Passed Away; Paternity; Future BMT: My Father the Hero; Her Alibi; BMT: Blame It on Rio; Krippendorf’s Tribe; Hot to Trot; Notes: My god, Blame it on Rio and Paternity. This guy is a legend (in my very specific bad movie / obscure movie circle).)

ActorsRichard Dreyfuss – ( Known For: Jaws; Stand by Me; RED; The Graduate; Close Encounters of the Third Kind; Polar; American Graffiti; Piranha 3D; What About Bob?; James and the Giant Peach; The American President; W.; Mr. Holland’s Opus; Always; Book Club; Stakeout; Leaves of Grass; Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead; Down and Out in Beverly Hills; Postcards from the Edge; Future BMT: Paranoia; My Life in Ruins; Another Stakeout; Let It Ride; The Crew; Silent Fall; Sweetwater; BMT: Poseidon; Krippendorf’s Tribe; Mad Dog Time; Notes: Notably considered an asshole. And amazingly was then hired to play a character who is, himself, quite an asshole. How fitting. Won and Oscar for The Goodbye Girl. Was nominated for Mr. Holland’s Opus.)

Jenna Elfman – ( Known For: Friends with Benefits; Doctor Dolittle; Grosse Pointe Blank; Can’t Hardly Wait; Keeping the Faith; Edtv; Looney Tunes: Back in Action; Barry; The Six Wives of Henry Lefay; Big Stone Gap; Love Hurts; Clifford’s Really Big Movie; BMT: Krippendorf’s Tribe; Town & Country; Notes: We talking Dharma? She was a strangely prolific actress in the late 90s. She was in 75 episodes of Fear the Walking Dead. So she’s still working. You can tell her career took off rather late because Elfman is her married name. She was Jenna Butala earlier.)

Natasha Lyonne – ( Known For: Glass Onion; American Pie; Uncut Gems; American Pie 2; Ad Astra; American Reunion; The Fantastic Four: First Steps; Robots; Kate & Leopold; DC League of Super-Pets; Sleeping with Other People; But I’m a Cheerleader; Detroit Rock City; Honey Boy; Everyone Says I Love You; Irresistible; Hello, My Name Is Doris; The Bad Guys 2; His Three Daughters; A Futile and Stupid Gesture; Future BMT: Blade: Trinity; Scary Movie 2; Dennis the Menace; BMT: Krippendorf’s Tribe; Smurfs; Show Dogs; Notes: She’s been nominated for five Emmys (for Poker Face, Russian Doll, and Orange is the New Black). I completely forgot she plays the daughter in this film.)

Budget/Gross – N/A / Domestic: $7,571,115 (Worldwide: $7,571,115)

(Truly the budget is unknown. I don’t think $7 million is going to cut it though.)

Rotten Tomatoes – 17% (7/41)

(Considering it is so poorly received it is amazing there are only two major reviews for the film. Was this like … barley released or something. How did we end up watching it I wonder.)

Reviewer Highlight: Krippendorf’s Tribe, a surprisingly enjoyable piece of piffle, is pure Disney all the way, replete with a wholly preposterous plot, engaging performances and a feel-good, lesson-teaching ending. – Mike Clark, USA Today

Poster – Sklogindorf’s Tribe

(I will never forget this poster for as long as I live. It was the cover of the VHS tape and it’s striking. Ugly as shit, but striking. I hate the sheer amount of white on the cover and pretty much everything about it, but you can’t deny it draws the eye. C.)

Tagline(s) – The last undiscovered tribe is about to expose themselves. (B)

(Obviously this is a play on Dreyfuss being nearly nude on the poster. But it also kind of plays on the fact that a sex tape plays a role in the plot. It’s too long and the double entendre just isn’t fun enough to draw you in (unless you happen to be drawn to Dreyfuss potentially appearing nude in the film. But it’s an A for effort.)

Keyword(s) – imdb-keyword-based-on-novel;based-on-book

Top 10: Fight Club (1999), Forrest Gump (1994), The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001), The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003), The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002), The Wolf of Wall Street (2013), The Silence of the Lambs (1991), Shutter Island (2010), Schindler’s List (1993), The Prestige (2006)

Future BMT: 74.8 The Turning (2020), 72.5 Zoom (2006), 69.6 Gulliver’s Travels (2010), 67.3 Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen (2004), 66.3 102 Dalmatians (2000), 65.2 Diary of a Wimpy Kid: The Long Haul (2017), 64.2 Valentine (2001), 57.9 The NeverEnding Story II: The Next Chapter (1990), 55.5 Hanging Up (2000), 55.3 Eye of the Beholder (1999), 55.2 Snow Dogs (2002), 54.3 The Divorce (2003), 53.9 Abandon (2002), 53.3 The Stepford Wives (2004), 52.4 Addicted (2014), 50.8 Freedomland (2006), 50.0 Kull: The Conqueror (1997), 49.9 King Solomon’s Mines (1985), 49.5 Thomas and the Magic Railroad (2000), 48.7 The Jungle Book 2 (2003)

BMT: Battlefield Earth (2000), Dragonball Evolution (2009), Cats (2019), Left Behind (2014), Fifty Shades of Grey (2015), Jaws 3-D (1983), One Missed Call (2008), Fifty Shades Darker (2017), Fifty Shades Freed (2018), The Bye Bye Man (2017), The Twilight Saga: New Moon (2009), Striptease (1996), The Island of Dr. Moreau (1996), The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn – Part 1 (2011), Firestarter (2022), Tarot (2024), Meg 2: The Trench (2023), The Haunting (1999), Fair Game (1995), Eragon (2006), After We Fell (2021), North (1994), Monkeybone (2001), The Rage: Carrie 2 (1999), Conan the Barbarian (2011), After Ever Happy (2022), Exorcist: The Beginning (2004), An American Haunting (2005), The Snowman (2017), The Seeker: The Dark Is Rising (2007), Sliver (1993), Pinocchio (2002), The Musketeer (2001), Shanghai Surprise (1986), Get Carter (2000), Exit to Eden (1994), After (2019), Alex Cross (2012), Queen of the Damned (2002), Congo (1995), One for the Money (2012), The Ring Two (2005), The Circle (2017), Return to the Blue Lagoon (1991), Bless the Child (2000), Endless Love (1981), Babylon A.D. (2008), Dreamcatcher (2003), …

Best Options (Comedy): 72.5 Zoom (2006), 69.6 Gulliver’s Travels (2010), 67.3 Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen (2004), 66.3 102 Dalmatians (2000), 65.2 Diary of a Wimpy Kid: The Long Haul (2017), 55.5 Hanging Up (2000), 55.2 Snow Dogs (2002), 54.3 The Divorce (2003), 53.3 The Stepford Wives (2004), 49.9 King Solomon’s Mines (1985), 49.5 Thomas and the Magic Railroad (2000), 48.7 The Jungle Book 2 (2003), 46.5 Sherlock Gnomes (2018), 46.0 Surviving Christmas (2004), 45.1 King Ralph (1991), 44.4 That Darn Cat (1997), 42.8 Pan (2015), 42.6 Deal of the Century (1983), 42.2 What’s the Worst That Could Happen? (2001), 41.5 Judy Moody and the Not Bummer Summer (2011), 41.1 Krippendorf’s Tribe (1998), 41.0 V.I. Warshawski (1991), 40.5 Admission (2013), 40.5 101 Dalmatians (1996), …

(We were originally going to do What’s the Worst That Could Happen? But then we realized, what the hell are we thinking! Of course we have to do Krippendorf’s Tribe. It is apparently a very weird book to consider adapting into a film.)

Welcome to Earf (HoE Number 15) – The shortest path through The Movie Database cast lists using only BMT films is: Richard Dreyfuss is No. 1 billed in Krippendorf’s Tribe and No. 2 billed in Poseidon, which also stars Kurt Russell (No. 1 billed) who is in Tango & Cash (No. 2 billed) which also stars Sylvester Stallone (No. 1 billed) who is in The Expendables 3 (No. 1 billed) which also stars Jason Statham (No. 2 billed) who is in In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale (No. 1 billed) which also stars Leelee Sobieski (No. 3 billed) who is in Here on Earth (No. 1 billed) => (1 + 2) + (1 + 2) + (1 + 1) + (2 + 1) + (3 + 1) = 15. If we were to watch The Crew we can get the HoE Number down to 13.

Notes – On Twitter, Richard Dreyfuss wrote, “I had so much fun with Jenna Elfman during ‘Krippendorf’. The movie was not very good, but we had some fun.”

On the set of this film, Richard Dreyfuss was interviewed for The Making of ‘Close Encounters of the Third Kind’ (2001) and he appears in this feature length documentary in the make-up and costume of James Krippendorf.

Robin Williams was originally attached to play James Krippendorf.

When writing the novel upon which this movie is based, Frank Parkin named the protagonist and his family after Klaus Krippendorf, a renowned communications scholar best known for his work on the role of communication in social construction and design. Parkin himself was a highly-regarded sociologist.

When Jenna Elfman’s character Veronica sees a promo at Best Buy for the documentary, “The Life of the Shelmikedmu”, she walks by a customer holding a VHS copy of Stakeout (1987), another movie released by Touchstone Pictures that stars Richard Dreyfuss.